Comments on: Strickland Signs Pre-Abortion Ultrasound Legislation http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530 two kingdoms, hundreds of thousands of miles Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:30:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dan http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14812 Dan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:36:45 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14812 Chris Heren: I was thinking the exact same thing with respect to "making murder illegal." A big difference it would seem is the potential post-natal murderer has already gotten past identifying his/her target as a person. Crazy, huh? Scott: I was also thinking that. Now if he were to get on the right side of taxes and spending... :) Chris Heren:

I was thinking the exact same thing with respect to “making murder illegal.” A big difference it would seem is the potential post-natal murderer has already gotten past identifying his/her target as a person. Crazy, huh?

Scott:

I was also thinking that. Now if he were to get on the right side of taxes and spending… :)

]]> By: Scott http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14811 Scott Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:11:47 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14811 And this by a DEMOCRAT. A pro-gun democrat at that. What a guy! And this by a DEMOCRAT. A pro-gun democrat at that.

What a guy!

]]> By: Christopher Heren http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14810 Christopher Heren Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:45:07 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14810 You know, one could also argue that making murder illegal forces murderers underground...what does that have to do with what is moral and how society should behave towards what is immoral? Noobs! On the other hand, this is a good thing. It can help bring people back to reality when so much polemic is used by pro-choicers about the rights of the mother over and against the rights of her offspring...not just a blob of tissue or even a person...but your OFFSPRING....in a sense your familial and genetic IMMORTALITY. You know, one could also argue that making murder illegal forces murderers underground…what does that have to do with what is moral and how society should behave towards what is immoral? Noobs!

On the other hand, this is a good thing. It can help bring people back to reality when so much polemic is used by pro-choicers about the rights of the mother over and against the rights of her offspring…not just a blob of tissue or even a person…but your OFFSPRING….in a sense your familial and genetic IMMORTALITY.

]]> By: Christopher Gillespie http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14807 Christopher Gillespie Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:32:19 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14807 This should be essential outreach of our churches. Its one of the reasons I am supportive of the Deaconess programs. This should be essential outreach of our churches. Its one of the reasons I am supportive of the Deaconess programs.

]]> By: Mrs. T. Swede http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14805 Mrs. T. Swede Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:15:52 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1530#comment-14805 I think that anything that is proven to reduce the abortion rate is a good thing. There is no reason that a child should have to die because of the sins of the mother. Also, there are a lot of good people out there who are anxiously awaiting a child to adopt. Every child is a blessing. When I was in college, one of the professors I had required everyone in the class to watch a movie entitled, "If These Walls Could Talk." It was about a number of different women who lived in the same house during different decades. None knew one another, and all had gotten pregnant a different way and were struggling with the decision of whether to get an abortion. Discussion after watching the movie led to the discovery that more deaths were reported amongst those who sought illegal abortions rather than when it was made legal, but that served, to me, as a very poor statistic to point to when those who were pro-choice stated that abortion should be legal. What I gained from that movie, coupled with the article you mentioned, is that with counseling, fewer women will want to have abortions, and even fewer will die from trying to seek a way around laws. I still don't like that abortion is legal in any way, shape or form, but if this is the "middle ground" we find, I'm glad that it's been found. I think that anything that is proven to reduce the abortion rate is a good thing. There is no reason that a child should have to die because of the sins of the mother. Also, there are a lot of good people out there who are anxiously awaiting a child to adopt. Every child is a blessing.

When I was in college, one of the professors I had required everyone in the class to watch a movie entitled, “If These Walls Could Talk.” It was about a number of different women who lived in the same house during different decades. None knew one another, and all had gotten pregnant a different way and were struggling with the decision of whether to get an abortion. Discussion after watching the movie led to the discovery that more deaths were reported amongst those who sought illegal abortions rather than when it was made legal, but that served, to me, as a very poor statistic to point to when those who were pro-choice stated that abortion should be legal.

What I gained from that movie, coupled with the article you mentioned, is that with counseling, fewer women will want to have abortions, and even fewer will die from trying to seek a way around laws. I still don’t like that abortion is legal in any way, shape or form, but if this is the “middle ground” we find, I’m glad that it’s been found.

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