Comments on: The End of the Church Year and the End Times http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1369 two kingdoms, hundreds of thousands of miles Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:07:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jim http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1369#comment-13681 Jim Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:20:06 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1369#comment-13681 I do have a little gripe, though, that during advent my pastors often read passages that "obviously" seem to me to apply to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. as though they applied to Jesus' final appearance. Along those lines, I'd suggest that Lk 23.28 isn't a general prediction of what women will say on the last day, but is specific to that generation -- "Daughters of Jerusalem," weep for yourselves, because in a short time your city will be destroyed because she rejected her king and messiah. Sort of funny, the guest preacher we had last Sunday started the reading at verse 32, omitting vv. 27-31. I suspect it was on purpose -- vv. 27-31 does sound much like the "gospel" -- but he's also a retired pastor, so maybe he just got a little mixed up. I do have a little gripe, though, that during advent my pastors often read passages that “obviously” seem to me to apply to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. as though they applied to Jesus’ final appearance.

Along those lines, I’d suggest that Lk 23.28 isn’t a general prediction of what women will say on the last day, but is specific to that generation — “Daughters of Jerusalem,” weep for yourselves, because in a short time your city will be destroyed because she rejected her king and messiah.

Sort of funny, the guest preacher we had last Sunday started the reading at verse 32, omitting vv. 27-31. I suspect it was on purpose — vv. 27-31 does sound much like the “gospel” — but he’s also a retired pastor, so maybe he just got a little mixed up.

]]> By: Scott http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1369#comment-13673 Scott Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:22:30 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1369#comment-13673 I always took "Heaven and Earth will pass away" to mean the elements will be consumed, that heaven there meant the sky. I may be mistaken, but I don't think you need to worry about telling your kids that christians who have gone before are in Heaven. Jesus speaks in that way when He spoke of the rich man and Lazarus. The LCMS has a decent paper on it. https://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/CTCR/resurrec1.pdf They used to have a shorter answer in a FAQ somewhere, but I can't find it. I always took “Heaven and Earth will pass away” to mean the elements will be consumed, that heaven there meant the sky. I may be mistaken, but I don’t think you need to worry about telling your kids that christians who have gone before are in Heaven. Jesus speaks in that way when He spoke of the rich man and Lazarus. The LCMS has a decent paper on it. https://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/CTCR/resurrec1.pdf

They used to have a shorter answer in a FAQ somewhere, but I can’t find it.

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