Comments on: Book Report: Louder Than Words by Jenny McCarthy

By: NRWife

NRWife — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:15:59 +0000

“From what I heard…autism is genetic, so the vaccine is a moot point.”

Actually even the autism is genetics group will tell you they think that genetics is “loading the gun” and “something in the environment” is “pulling the trigger.”

However, should my daughter have had a hep b vaccination 6 weeks before she was even due to be born (yep she got it the day she was sent home from the hospital - she was born 11 weeks early and only in the hospital 5 weeks). She was also barely 5 lbs and got the same dosage as a baby who is born who weighs 7 lbs, 8 lbs, 10 lbs. She then continued to get a vast quantity of shots up to five multi-illness immunizations at a time months prior to when she would have had she stayed in the womb. I ASKED the questions EVERY time and was assured that vaccinations were COMPLETELY safe. Let me tell you right now - until we know the cause of autism with 100% certainty - no one can say that vaccines are a moot point.

By: Mark Arnold

Mark Arnold — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:32:58 +0000

Bruce,
Jonathan was born at the tail end of 1992. In 1991 there was an increase in the number of recommended vaccines - many containing thimerosal. As Dan noted the vast majority of flu vaccine still contains Thimerosal.

Many multi-dose vial vaccines (DTaP, Hep B) are still produced with Thimerosal, the mercury is then chelated out (like some of our kids) - these still contain trace amounts of mercury. This is not an issue for single dose vials. Read the vial - you want it to say “preservative free”.

Carol,
Autism must certainly have a genetic component (ie, my wife and I both are exposed to pollen — gives her more trouble, probably genetic ; my elder son is more sensitive to mercury than I, it isn’t good for either of us, genetically he is predisposed to be more sensitive to metals).

According to my local rag, Raleigh’s News and Observer, the autism rate could be as high as 1 in 67. This wasn’t always with us, and not like this. It was unheard of before vaccines.

My main source is the NVIC (National Vaccine Information Center) — http://www.nvic.org , not a gov’t agency by the way.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:04:47 +0000

Point of information: Thimerosal, which contains mercury, is still use in flu vaccines. The CDC has a table of immunizations and when they contained thimerosal.

Given that this is a topic of much debate, I suggest for the benefit of everyone here that if one has a factual claim, please provide a reference.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:34:43 +0000

Mark,
When was your child born? Mercury has not been present in vaccines since 2002.

By: Linda

Linda — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:49:05 +0000

“From what I heard….autism is genetic…” There is no proven specific determination of the cause for autism, genetic, immmunizations or otherwise. When you say to parents who are struggling to get the proper treatments and therapies that autism is genetic, that is just heaping additional guilt on them! Many cases of autism become apparent and are diagnosed after immunizations, so is it the age or the shots? I know how my daughter and son-in-law, and in fact our entire family, have struggled with the why of this beautiful bright little girl’s diagnosis. The only thing I have read from McCarthy’s book is that she paid something like $4,000.00 per month for treatments. Well, good for her, but how many families can do that? We learned at a recent autism dinner that the incidence of autism is 1 in every 150 children but the funding for research and treatmetns are lower than ANY other childhood illness or disease. I am sorry if this is erratic, but I get very emotional when it comes to my granddaughter and the lack of assistance for parents of children with autism.

By: Carol Rutz

Carol Rutz — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:34:31 +0000

When I first heard that story, I was miffed that the People headline read “Fighting for my Autistic Son”. Personally, I prefer that she fights WITH her son.

From what I heard…autism is genetic, so the vaccine is a moot point.

Autism Diva has a great article regarding McCarthy:

http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2007/09/jenny-mccarthy-and-problem-of-illusions.html

By: Linda

Linda — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:30:06 +0000

To Mark Arnold - I will be adding you and your son to my prayer list. I, too, have a deep belief that the overload of vaccinations on tiny little systems is a catalyst for multitudes of problems. I am the grandmother of a beautiful little girl who is on the autism spectrum and I recall accompanying her to the pediatrician and they administered 4 and 5 shots at a time, even, though she was 3 months premature! Her mother continually questioned the wisdom of this, but doctors know more than parents, supposedly. Once again, I pray that healing and improvement is in your son’s future.

By: Mark Arnold

Mark Arnold — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:47:25 +0000

I’ll consider getting the book. The vaccine injury as causal factor may or may not be due to MMR. My son was harmed - I believe - at two hours old when the hep B was administered. Additional vaccines added to the injury. I think mercury is a primary cause, additionally the increased number of vaccines is hard on the immune system.

We will be receiving medical treatment out of the country soon. placenta/umbilical cord stem cells. We’ll see if some of the damage can be repaired.

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:21:17 +0000

Hrm. At the end of chapter 8 she mentions that Evan was 2½ when he was diagnosed. In chapter 11, McCarthy discusses the progress she had made getting the “three-year-old” to say “open.” Without any clear chronological jumping around, the MMR vaccination is mentioned later in Chapter 11. Perhaps it was an organizational detail that was overlooked.

By: NRWife

NRWife — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:59:33 +0000

I do believe you may be incorrect on the timing of the MMR vaccination and his diagnosis. His diagnosis came at 3 and the MMR came well before that.