Comments on: The Gospel Starts Where? http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1246 two kingdoms, hundreds of thousands of miles Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:18:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Lawrence http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1246#comment-12916 Lawrence Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:09:51 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1246#comment-12916 I have a good friend in a church like this. They are a "Bible" church that focuses solely on the Bible, both New and Old Testament. No problem there. But what they actually talk about is all the things they need to do to be saved. "I" must choose to be faithful. "I" need to {you get the point}. You probalby are also seeing how this is exactly backwards. I pointed this out to him once in what I thought was a non-confrontational way, but it really upset him. I am now now his project list of people he must attempt to convert in order to please God. {sigh} I have a good friend in a church like this. They are a “Bible” church that focuses solely on the Bible, both New and Old Testament. No problem there. But what they actually talk about is all the things they need to do to be saved. “I” must choose to be faithful. “I” need to {you get the point}. You probalby are also seeing how this is exactly backwards. I pointed this out to him once in what I thought was a non-confrontational way, but it really upset him. I am now now his project list of people he must attempt to convert in order to please God. {sigh}

]]> By: Dr Luther from Lutherama http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1246#comment-12914 Dr Luther from Lutherama Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:21:46 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1246#comment-12914 What Chryst says is most certainly true, but you are right that Genesis 3:14-15 is the first clear proclamation of the Gospel. I frequently find that many people think OT = Law and NT = Gospel and they are frequently surprised by what they find in the OT if they read it. I in a rash moment offered a critique of a sermon a baptist had written and then posted on a bulletin board we both frequent. He was not happy when I said it stunk, to which he responded but I spent time expounding the scripture. To which I responded and you turned it into a do it yourself book. Sadly, what you described is what many call preaching the bible. What Chryst says is most certainly true, but you are right that Genesis 3:14-15 is the first clear proclamation of the Gospel. I frequently find that many people think OT = Law and NT = Gospel and they are frequently surprised by what they find in the OT if they read it.

I in a rash moment offered a critique of a sermon a baptist had written and then posted on a bulletin board we both frequent. He was not happy when I said it stunk, to which he responded but I spent time expounding the scripture. To which I responded and you turned it into a do it yourself book. Sadly, what you described is what many call preaching the bible.

]]> By: Chryst http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1246#comment-12913 Chryst Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:37:56 +0000 http://necessaryroughness.org/archives/1246#comment-12913 "In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth". Not THE Gospel, per se, but certainly what God did for us, eh? “In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth”. Not THE Gospel, per se, but certainly what God did for us, eh?

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